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Date: 2000-11-11
Europarat kneift bei "Cyber-Crime"-.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- of Europe aka COE derzeit schwer zu erreichen. Hintergrund des 4wards ist, dass Meryem [GILC Mitglied IRIS FR] zu einer UNESCO Konferenz geladen ist und dort mit einem Vertreter des Europarats über das Cybercrime Abkommen diskutieren sollte... Noch mehr Hintergründe http://www.quintessenz.at/archiv/ ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date sent: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:54:36 +0100 From: "Erich M" <erich-moechel@quintessenz.at> Subject: Re: COE and UNESCO Conference To: gilc-plan@gilc.org Send reply to: gilc-plan@gilc.org On 10 Nov 00, at 12:26, Meryem Marzouki added to the bitstream: > Now let's have some fun with CoE : > It could happen that I will discuss with nobody the cybercrime treaty > issue, only presenting the problem and our views... At the begining, Peter > Csonka, CoE director, accepted to participate. His name is written on the > pre-programme. Then, when the organizer told him there will be civil > society representatives, Peter Csonka was no more available, and he > suggested than a representative from CoE expert committee will > participate. Now, it seems that nobody is available from CoE :-))) >In any case, I'm interested by any inputs on new developments >reported yesterday by Erich on the list. Dear Meryem & gang, They duck and cover always then, when things are not in harmony concerning a multilateral agreement. As to my knowledge in the G-7 [who actually started this cybercrime shit, led by the us] it should be France & Germany [& most likely Japan] against US & UK [FRENCHELON and the spy network of the German Bundesnachrichtendienst cannot match the ECHELON effort in the least ;] As usual officials in the Austrian ministry of justice would not tell a word about which nation said what, but it seems pretty obvious. The troubles in the G-7 rose from fears of mutual industry espionage in the collected data - "trans border searches" is the point. At last also the US worried those articles might internationally legalize spying of other nations in the US ;]] Especially parts of the treaty on technical matters show a degree of ignorance that made me wonder why IT-industry would remain silent for such a long time... On monday there should be more news available, anybody else here on the list with more intelligence? cu Erich -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- World-Information Forum 24 11 2000 Technisches Museum Wien http://world-information.org/html/site_index/index.htm -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- - -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- edited by Harkank published on: 2000-11-11 comments to office@quintessenz.at subscribe Newsletter - -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- 
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